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Would you pay for someone else?

Updated: Oct 8, 2023

Simple questions, would you pay for your neighbors power bill? Would you want to pay your mechanic to fix someone else's car? Would you pay your attorney to represent someone else? I ask these questions in jest, because I'm pretty sure the answer is no to all of them. Now would you pay your union to benefit a non union member who is not paying dues? I have had more discussions with non members, who expect us to serve them without joining our union, than I can remember. So for all the tourists that want the same benefits as those of you who joined our family and pay dues, ask yourselves all of the above questions. Keep that in mind the next time you feel that sense of entitlement that compels you to expect us to work for you without joining. We serve our members, period. Non members already receive a huge benefit from the CBA negotiated on behalf of everyone. We have close to 700 of you so far that put your faith and trust in us to protect and serve the best interests of all of our members. Talk to your coworkers, ask them if they would pay someone else's bills. We are not welfare, we are not unemployment, and we do not have government funding to pay for the lodges' bills. This is not to diminish the need for "GOVERNMENT FUNDED" programs like I mentioned, but that is not how unions operate or get funded. If you are a non member reading this, this is not a personal attack on you. This is a call for you to exercise common sense in your expectations.

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A. ABUHANTASH
A. ABUHANTASH
Oct 09, 2023

FOP through Lunk and Ash helped me on their own personal time when I had AFSCME. They never pressured me to join. These guys have been helping everyone in green. Brothers and sisters never had it better, ever!

The CBA was not bargained and negotiated to benefit FOP members only. It's for all of us. To answer the question, yes, I would pay my brother's or sister's bill, but I would hope they'd do the same in return - if they can, of course. The more important question imho is why are those brothers and sisters not joining us already? Only they can answer that. The load is the same. Our union expenses are the same, but it would better…

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Viking
Viking
Oct 08, 2023

It says “there for our brothers and sisters“ in the top corner of this website. Perhaps you should change it to “there for our brothers and sisters that pay union fees”. If a fellow brother was in need then yes I would pay their water bill. My brothers are those that wear the badge not those that pay union dues. My decision to join had little to do with the benefits id receive if I were in trouble but more so to support something I saw as very positive for all Officers wether they joined or not. This is still of course my opinion. I have seen the way you respond to non members on this blog and it ha…

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I’m guessing you missed the history lesson where I and others who founded this lodge represented officers for free and without question for 15 years. I think you also are missing the mentality that some, not all, non members have adopted where they feel entitled to union benefits without joining. Let me also explain that I was an officer for 21 years and was there for any officer, any time. I have watched this union grow from its humble beginnings to a powerful organization that acts on behalf of its members. If you have sympathy for non members who adopt the mentality of why join when I get everything you get for free, then I’m sure you will have no…

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FOP is more than just deciphering the CBA. If you think it is only about pay and benefits, you are sadly mistaken and I pity your ignorance. If you are a non-member, your pay and benefits will mean nothing when you have to fund your own legal defense just to keep your job.

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Clearly your not understanding what I am saying so I will clarify it. I dont think FOP should have to represent non members. I am just saying an answer for a non member is still an answer for the members within a public forum setting. Also, are we saying unless people are willing to shell out money for the membership they dont deserve small answers in regards to the CBA which was drafted by FOP? I am fully aware of my benefits, hence why I pay for the membership and speak with respect. I am just looking out for all the people that I trust my life with day in and day out. I understand things arent free and dont…

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I understand why certain aspects of being a member needs to be for us members only. That being said, I have to say I do disagree with the overall message of this post. Member or not all the officers are my brothers and sisters (Family). I understand the frustration of being asked all these questions from non-members, but I do believe FOP is the only entity that can truly decipher the CBA which does apply to all correctional officers regardless of membership. My opinion would be that even if a non member ask a question about the CBA we keep the answer posted in a public forum so that both non members and members will now forever have the answer…

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JRoach
JRoach
Oct 08, 2023
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I’ve answered questions for fellow officers, and the Union rep at NNCC has done a great job answering non-members questions. But when they get themselves into a bind, they should have put forth the effort and some cash to protect themselves. everyone knows this. But that aside, yes as a union member I find and answer general questions and concerns. With the expressed notion that they would fair better joining.

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JRoach
JRoach
Oct 08, 2023

Non members have received great pay and support off of my dues. They need to join to be protected by the union. My immediate coworkers are taking advantage of the outstanding deal for Oct. 👍

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Well said brother! Thank you for the support!!!

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